Documentary on the Mysteries of the Knights Templar

At the time of the Knights Templar, around 1200 AD, Muslims were progressing violently and mercilessly from land to land, killing, enslaving, raping, looting people and occupying their country turning them Islamic. Muslims had made the region so dangerous these self-sacrificing warrior monks, assigned to protect the borders of Europe from savage Muslim invasion and mass murders, could not even stop to bury their own least they themselves would be killed. It is their fight, and the sacrifices of the Crusaders that have made us able to live in a free society this long.



Saudi woman accused of robbing 5 U.S. banks

They can’t contain their hatred and contempt of America. Rest assure many were celebrating in Arabia on hearing this. Ranya al-Huthaili is a U.S.-Saudi dual citizen. Why on earth would anyone give dual citizenship to these people, so they can freely come and go freely between their terror funding nation and the U.S., and bring in more relatives on their passports? Has the West gone completely mad?? Saudi Arabia is one of the nations that churn out endless forged passports.


Monday, 30 September 2013 KSA 23:34 – GMT 20:34

The Unusual Suspect: Saudi woman accused of robbing 5 U.S. banks

Surveillance images from the bank robberies showed Ranya al-Huthaili wearing big black sunglasses. (Photo courtesy: Star Tribune).  Al Arabiya

Pulling off the perfect bank heist isn’t as easy as the movies make it seem, especially when the robber takes aim at five banks – in the space of three weeks.

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Ranya al-Huthaili was caught on camera. (Photo courtesy: Star Tribune)

This week, a 23-year-old Saudi-U.S. woman has been accused of doing just that.

Ranya al-Huthaili, who was arrested earlier this month on charges of robbing the five banks, is now set to remain in custody out of fear she will flee to Saudi Arabia, U.S. newspaper Star Tribune reported on Friday.

“She has been charged with bank robbery [and] telling the teller that she had a gun. She took $2,300,” said Nadia Bilbassy-Charters, an Al Arabiya correspondent in Washington.

According to the newspaper, the FBI believes Huthaili robbed the Klein Bank in Minnesota on Aug. 15, the First State Bank of Wyoming in Minnesota on Aug. 23, the TCF Bank in the Cub Foods on Broadway Avenue W. in Forest Lake on Sept. 1 and the First State Bank and Trust in Wisconsin on Sept. 5.

Huthaili stole $2,300 from the Wisconsin bank. However, the money’s identification markings led police to a shopping mall in Minneapolis where she bought a computer, the correspondent confirmed.

Not all the money was spent, however, and “nobody knows where the rest of the money is and the police didn’t say,” Bilbassy-Charters explained.

Saudi woman accused of robbing 5 U.S. banks

Surveillance images from the bank robberies showed Ranya al-Huthaili wearing big black sunglasses. (Photo courtesy: bank surveillance)

On Sept. 12, Huthaili was charged in federal court with robbing the Dairy State Bank on Sept. 9 in Menomonie, Wisconsin, the last of the heists she’s accused of carrying out.

Huthaili, a dual Saudi-U.S. citizen, is now deemed a flight risk as court documents state Saudi Arabia has no extradition pact with the United States.

In the ruling by U.S. Magistrate Judge Steven Rau this week, Rau wrote that someone who recently became “romantically involved with al-Huthaili called the defendant’s mother and asked whether al-Huthaili could flee to Saudi Arabia to ‘make this all go away,’” according to the Star Tribune.

Surveillance images from the bank robberies showed Ranya al-Huthaili wearing big black sunglasses. (Photo courtesy: bank surveillance)

Rau wrote that the defendant has acknowledged robbing four of the banks, while surveillance images from the robberies showed her wearing big black sunglasses.

According to Al Arabiya’s Washington correspondent, Huthaili’s family has since hired a lawyer.

Huthaili’s exact nationality and family background is not yet known. However, sources told Al Arabiya Washington that she comes from a well-to-do family.

Huthaili, a 2008 graduate of Roseville High School, has now reportedly told authorities that she is hearing voices and has thoughts of self-harm.

She remains in the same jail in Roseville in Minnesota since her arrest at a local shopping center on Sept. 10.

“You Are Next. We Will Kill All Brits, And Sharia Will Rule” – Hate Preacher Who Recruited Kenyan Killers

When the Kenya massacre came to light we said: Westgate Kenya yesterday, Westfield London tomorrow.

Don’t call us psychic. You don’t need to be psychic to know where Muslims will be taking their agenda. You only need to be a realist and have some hindsight and foresight.
Time to start deporting all of them before its too late. And start NOW. But none of the cowardly politicians will do it – so the future for Brits look bleak, and they will eventually indeed be massacred in civil wars caused by excess Muslim migration which should never have been permitted at all.

Britain will be next, warns hate preacher who recruited Nairobi mall massacre killers 

  • Abubaker Shariff Ahmed is wanted for recruiting members of Al-Shabaab
  • Known as Makaburi, the preacher said terrorists are planning an attack on Britain
  • Makaburi is accused of recruiting ‘White Widow’ Samantha Lewthwaite who is wanted by Interpol
  • Yesterday he was in hiding on the Kenyan island of Mombasa in fear of being killed

By Paul Bentley

PUBLISHED: 22:57, 29 September 2013

Makaburi, whose real name is Abubaker Shariff Ahmed, at his residence in Majenga,Mombasa

Makaburi, whose real name is Abubaker Shariff Ahmed, at his residence in Majenga, Mombasa

A hate preacher wanted for recruiting killers to the group that massacred civilians at a mall in Nairobi warned yesterday that Britain was the next target.

Abubaker Shariff Ahmed, who is known to his followers by the nickname Makaburi, meaning graveyard, said terrorists are planning to murder innocent Britons on their mission to impose Sharia law across the world.

Speaking exclusively to the Daily Mail, he named David Cameron as a specific target for the Al-Shabaab  terrorist group, which attacked the Westgate Mall in Nairobi, Kenya, last Saturday.

Heated conversation: Daily Mail reporter Paul Bentley with Abubaker Shariff Ahmed

Heated conversation: Daily Mail reporter Paul Bentley with Abubaker Shariff Ahmed

Asked if terror would be brought to Britain, Makaburi said: ‘Yes. The British will be targeted personally. That means tourists on the streets will be killed. You will all die.

‘The British should be taken out. Your presidents and your cabinets, they are guilty. Obama is a mass murderer. I would give my life to get his.

‘Same thing with David Cameron. Yes, they should be killed.’

Makaburi’s claims came as Mr Cameron revealed he had ordered security and intelligence chiefs to draw up plans to deal with a terrorist attack on British shopping centres.

The Prime Minister, who chaired meetings of the Cobra crisis committee last week, said he had no intelligence of plans for an ‘imminent’ attack in Britain.

But asked whether he was concerned that British-based Somalis might export terror to the UK, Mr Cameron said: ‘There is always a worry of  that and there is a hotbed of terrorism in Somalia that spills over into  other countries.’

Incredibly, Makaburi has not yet been questioned by officials in Kenya over the Westgate attack, despite being accused by the UN of being ‘a leading facilitator and recruiter’ of young terrorists in the region.

While he is said to have recruited ‘White Widow’ Samantha Lewthwaite to the group, he insisted yesterday that he does not know where she is or whether she was involved in the latest outrage.

Makaburi is accused of recruiting Samantha Lewthwaite, the most wanted woman in the world, to the group though claims he does not know her whereabouts or whether she was involved in the Nairobi mall massacre

Makaburi is accused of recruiting Samantha Lewthwaite, the most wanted woman in the world, to the group though claims he does not know her whereabouts or whether she was involved in the Nairobi mall massacre

Describing Lewthwaite, 29, from Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire, Makaburi said: ‘I call her Samantha Fox. She is the fox. We know nothing about her. She does not exist. If it’s true then she is a superwoman.’

Lewthwaite, a mother of four, is the widow of London bomber Jermaine Lindsay and is on the run in East Africa.

She is the world’s most wanted woman after Interpol issued a worldwide arrest warrant last week.

Yesterday, Makaburi, 50, was in hiding in a slum on the Kenyan island of Mombasa. He is staying on private property, refusing to leave even for prayers in case he would be killed.

More than 60 people were killed by members of the Al-Shabaab terrorist group in the attack at Westgate Mall, Nairobi

More than 60 people were killed by members of the Al-Shabaab terrorist group in the attack at Westgate Mall, Nairobi

He is accused of being part of a network that directed up to 100 British terrorists to East African training camps.

He warned that the Westgate siege was just the beginning of a series of attacks in revenge for Western intervention in Muslim countries.

‘It is justified,’ he said. ‘If I cannot live with my family, why should the British live with their families?’

Asked what he had been doing to pass the time in hiding, he flippantly replied: ‘I am preparing a bomb.’

Saudi Woman Spit on People at Florida Walmart Because “Higher Authority” Made Her Do It

Saudi Woman Spitting on “Kafirs” at Florida Walmart Because “Higher Authority” Made Her Do It

Kafirs to these Muslims is anyone non-Muslim. And as a non-Muslim you are “apes and pigs” and viewed as dirty, low and below contempt. Americans and Jews in particular are hated more than anyone else. Muslims pray five times a day, and one of the lines in those prayers is for Allah to make ‘kafirs’ orphans and widows. Isn’t it appalling that local authorities grant permission for mosques to be built, and even help fund them, where Muslims pray for the death and murder of the very hand that feed them and help them?

It’s not difficult to guess what motivated this Wahhabi Saudi Arabian engineering student who spat in the face of a Walmart customer after the customer told her she was going in the wrong door.

Nuha Mohammed Al-Doaifi claimed she was upset at how “white people are pushing us around” and that a “higher authority” told her to spit. She had also spit at one of her professors at Florida Institute of Technology a few weeks earlier.

Of course it’s not about anyone pushing ‘them’ around. Americans better wake up. This woman has not come into the country to be a student. She is there for something else and her contempt is so great she can’t even conceal it. She has been sent there.

Battle of Talas: Islam’s Failed Invasion Of China, 751 A.D

Is there anyone Muslims have not tried to attack, invade or steal from? Muslims are history’s most prolific aggressors and looters.

You got to love the description in the video:

“The Chinese Emperor received Muslim ambassadors, but they refused to bow to him or pay respect. Unlike others, Chinese immediately understood the danger and nuisance of Islam.”

How much safer we would be today, had some of us only understood better.

MI5 fears over 60 Somali jihad plotters in UK

MORE than 60 Somali extremists have been placed on a special MI5 watchlist as British security services tighten surveillance in the aftermath of last week’s attack in Kenya.

Published: Sun, September 29, 2013  |  EXPRESS.CO.UK


Some British extremists are feared to have joined Al Shabaab groups in Somalia [AP]

The news emerged as Foreign Office officials confirmed that a sixth Briton had been identified among the 67 men, women and children killed by members of the Al Shabaab Islamic group during the four-day siege in Nairobi’s Westgate shopping centre.

According to security sources, the list contains 40 Somalis thought to be recruiting for the jihadist group and a further 20, mostly British so-called “clean skins”, who have committed no crimes but are thought to have links to the extremist organisation.

While Al Shabaab continues to focus its efforts on securing an Islamic state within its spiritual homeland in Somalia, experts last night warned that an internal power struggle could see the terror group, which has financial backing from Al Qaeda, shift its attentions to any country – including Britain – that supports African Union forces in efforts to contain it.

British Special Forces were scrambled with US counterparts and Kenyan forces after the attack in a bid to prevent the jihadists escaping back to safety across Kenya’s vast border.

Last night highly placed military sources revealed that SAS units were poised to join US and French forces in a coalition strike against Al Shabaab, a group which regularly uses child soldiers, after a plea from Somali president Hassan Sheikh Mohamoud, who was in Washington at the time of the Kenya attack.

The source said: “The vast majority of London’s 70,000-strong Somali population are honest, peaceful citizens but there is a small faction who, perhaps feeling isolated within their communities, or a lack of opportunity, are drawn to Islamic jihad causes.

“Our watchlist includes around 20 who could be ‘sleepers’ waiting to be called into action. We may know who some of these Somali extremists are, but we don’t know what they are thinking.

“They keep within the law, maintain a low profile and communicate on the internet in such a manner that it is hard to intercept them. Vigilance by the police, ourselves and the public will be key to future safety in mainland UK.”

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Al Shabaab has used child soldiers in its bloody campaign [AP]


Our watchlist includes around 20 who could be ‘sleepers’ waiting to be called into action. We may know who some of these Somali extremists are, but we don’t know what they are thinking.
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Charlotte Francis, Africa expert with the Heritage Foundation think tank, said: “There has been a power shift within Al Shabaab and it seems it will take a more global approach, though it is too early to say whether it is capable of launching an attack in the UK yet.”

British authorities want to avoid a repeat of the American experience in Minneapolis where gangs of Somali youngsters born in the US were encouraged to go to Somalia to fight the transitional government and its Ethiopian supporters, who have since withdrawn.

Despite setbacks which saw them pushed back from the capital Mogadishu, Al Shabaab continues to have a strong grip in Somalia, controlling vast swathes of land across the north east of the country. They recently shot down an experimental US drone.

The FBI is so concerned about a possible attack in the US that it has dubbed Al Shabaab one of its “highest priorities”.

Writing for the Sunday Express today Maajid Nawaz, chairman of the Quilliam Foundation think tank, warned it is a “foregone conclusion” that so-called white widow Samantha Lewthwaite, sought by Interpol in connection with the Nairobi attacks, could inspire others in the UK to follow her lead.



America Gets A Taste of Islam: Muslim Somali Cab Driver Praise Hitler

This is from 2007 but worth seeing:

A Muslim Somali cab driver in Nashville TN, picks up two Christian college students, gets into a discussion about religion and tells them that Hitler was a “good man because he was trying to rid the world of Jews”. Nashville City Paper reports that when the students paid the cabby they expressed their disagreement and told him “If you’re going to live in a country like ours, you’re going to have to tolerate other people’s beliefs” This didn’t sit well with Mr. Ibrahim Ahmed, the cab driver, who then proceeded to run them down, hitting one, breaking his pelvis and leg.


Video: Muslim Immigrants Taking Over a Small Towns In America’s Bible Belt

Kafir Crusaders

Anybody who watches the news on a regular basis will have most likely of seen or heard something about the Islamic hell hole of Somalia. As far as i am aware lawless Somalia is well known for only negative things such as pirates, kidnappers Islamic extremists and blood thirsty jihadists. Those uncivilized Muslims who live there are brought up on nothing other than murder and Islam. If you have seen the film Black Hawk Down, then the barbaric Somalis in that were as near to real life as you can get. As you can imagine take them away from all they know they hardly would make the best candidates for integrating into western life.

This is something we in Britain found out over a decade ago when there was a bit of a trend for Somali asylum seekers turning up here. Once settled in free housing and their benefit money…

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Muslims Killing Muslims: Gunmen Kill 50 Students as They Sleep in Nigerian College


Sept. 29, 2013: In this image taken with a mobile phone, rescue workers and family members gather to identify the shrouded bodies of students killed following an attack by Islamist extremists on an agricultural college in Gujba, Nigeria. (AP)

This is not the first time Boko Haram kill other Muslims. This murder of students was committed in 2012 in Mubi.

By Joe Hemba

DAMATURU, Nigeria |  REUTERS | Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:19am EDT

(Reuters) – Suspected Islamist militants stormed a college in northeastern Nigeria and shot dead around 40 male students, some of them while they slept early on Sunday, witnesses said.

The gunmen, thought to be members of rebel sect Boko Haram, attacked one hostel, took some students outside before killing them and shot others trying to flee, people at the scene told Reuters.

“They started gathering students into groups outside, then they opened fire and killed one group and then moved onto the next group and killed them. It was so terrible,” said one surviving student Idris, who would only give his first name.

“They came with guns around 1 a.m. (2400 GMT) and went directly to the male hostel and opened fire on them … The college is in the bush so the other students were running around helplessly as guns went off and some of them were shot down,” said Ahmed Gujunba, a taxi driver who lives by the college.

Boko Haram, which wants to establish an Islamic state in northern Nigeria, has intensified attacks on civilians in recent weeks in revenge for a military offensive against its insurgency.

Several schools, seen as the focus of Western-style education and culture, have been targeted.

Boko Haram and spin-off Islamist groups like the al Qaeda-linked Ansaru have become the biggest security threat in Africa’s second largest economy and top oil exporter.

Western governments are increasingly worried about the threat posed by Islamist groups across Africa, from Mali and Algeria in the Sahara, to Kenya in the east, where Somalia’s al-Shabaab fighters killed at least 67 people in an attack on a Nairobi shopping mall a week ago.

Bodies were recovered from dormitories, classrooms and outside in the undergrowth on Sunday, a member of staff at the college told Reuters, asking not to be named.

A Reuters witness counted 40 bloody corpses piled on the floor at the main hospital in Yobe state capital Damaturu on Sunday, mostly of young men believed to be students.

The bodies were brought from the college, which is in Gujba, a rural area 30 miles (50km) south of Damaturu and around 130 miles from Nigerian borders with Cameroon and Niger.

State police commissioner Sanusi Rufai said he suspected Boko Haram was behind the attack but gave no details.


Thousands have been killed since Boko Haram launched its uprising in 2009, turning itself from a clerical movement opposed to Western culture into an armed militia with growing links to al Qaeda’s West African wing.

President Goodluck Jonathan declared a state of emergency in three northeastern state in May, including Yobe, and ordered a military offensive to crush Boko Haram’s insurgency.

There was an initial lull in the violence as Islamists fled bases in cities, forests and mountains. Then the militants began revenge attacks on schools, security forces and civilians believed to be helping them.

In July, suspected Boko Haram militants killed 27 students and a teacher at a school in Potiskum, a town about 30 miles from the site of Sunday’s attack.

Several hundred people have died in assaults over the past few weeks. Some observers say the army offensive has only succeeded in pushing attacks away from well-guarded large towns and cities into vulnerable rural areas.

Boko Haram’s insurgency is also putting pressure on the economy of Africa’s most populous nation. Nigeria’s security spending has risen to more than 1 trillion naira ($6.26 billion) per year, or around 20 percent of the federal budget. ($1 = 159.8 Nigerian naira)

(Additional reporting by Isaac Abrak in Kaduna; Writing by Joe Brock; Editing by Andrew Heavens)

Muslims Killing Muslims: Market Bombing Kill 33 in Pakistan’s Peshawar

Security officials, rescue workers and residents gather at the site of a bomb attack in Peshawar September 29, 2013. REUTERS-Khuram Parvez

Rescue workers arrive at the site of a bomb attack in Peshawar September 29, 2013. REUTERS-Khuram Parvez

Smoke rises from the building as firefighters work to extinguish the fire at the site of a bomb attack in Peshawar September 29, 2013. REUTERS-Khuram Parvez


Market bombing kill 33 in Pakistan’s Peshawar: police

By Hamid Ullah Khan

PESHAWAR, Pakistan | Sun Sep 29, 2013 10:49am EDT

(Reuters) – Twin blasts in the northwestern Pakistani city of Peshawar killed 33 people and wounded 70 on Sunday, a week after bombings at a church there killed scores, police and hospital authorities said.

Islamist violence has been on the rise in Pakistan in recent months, undermining Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s efforts to tame the insurgency by launching peace talks with the Taliban.

The blasts outside a police station hit an area known as Quiswakhani, or the storytellers’ bazaar, crowded with shoppers. Police said they thought at least one of the explosions in the city close to the Afghan border had been caused by a car bomb.

There was no immediate claim of responsibility. Taliban spokesman Shahidullah Shahid condemned the attack.

Two policemen tried in vain to hold back the crowd gathered outside the Lady Reading Hospital in Peshawar, where many of the victims had been taken.

Distraught relatives dialed mobile phone numbers of those caught up in the blasts but were unable to get through. Women sobbed as ambulances pulled up with more bodies.

“Who is burning Peshawar, who is burning Peshawar?” screamed one woman in a long headscarf.

Shop owner Sher Gul said he had made repeated trips on his motorbike to bring six people to hospital. Gul cursed a provincial government minister who came to visit the victims.

“Why have you come so late?” Gul shouted.

Inside the hospital, people tripped over the injured lying in corridors as they hunted for loved ones. Nine members of one family were among the dead.

The blasts follow an attack by a Taliban faction on Peshawar’s Anglican church last Sunday that killed more than 80 people, the deadliest assault on Christians in predominantly Muslim Pakistan.

The Taliban have repeatedly rejected Pakistan’s constitution and have called for the full implementation of Islamic law and for war with India.

Sharif was due to meet Indian counterpart Manmohan Singh on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly later on Sunday, only hours after Singh described Pakistan as the “epicenter of terrorism in our region”.

Another Pakistani politician, former cricket player Imran Khan, has suggested the Taliban might open an office in Pakistan to help negotiations, but the suggestion drew an angry response from those caught up in Sunday’s blasts.

“The government wants to open an office for the Taliban? What office? They are killing us. For how long do we have to suffer like this? I have no hope,” said Waheed Khan as he searched for his nephew, a rickshaw driver.

(Additional reporting by Saud Mehsud in Dera Ismail Khan; Writing by Katharine Houreld; Editing by Paul Tait and Andrew Heavens)

Islam, and Sex with 9 Year Old Brides

The blog The Rationalizer gives an analysis on the topic of paedophilia in Islam:

In this post I intend to provide some references as to why Muslims, such as Hamza Tzortzis, condone sexual intercourse with females as young as 9 years old.  Before providing those references I would like to point out a few things.

  1. As far as I am aware, Muslims must operate within the laws of their hosting country as long as they do not force them to break Islamic laws.  This would mean that no Imam in the UK should perform an Islamic marriage with anyone under the age of sixteen.
  2. To have sex with a female she must either be one’s wife, or a prisoner of war.
  3. To be bound to condone marriage at such a young age the believer must adhere to the Sunnah of Muhammad.  Sunnah is a prescribed normative life based on the actions of Muhammad who, according to the Quran, was the perfect example of a Muslim.  This Sunnah is derived from hadiths, which are not part of the Quran but a secondary source of information written some time after Muhammad’s death from orally transmitted history.
  4. Some Muslims follow the Quran only so hadiths do not apply to them.  There is no reason I know of to be forced to condone sex with such young females from the Quran only, despite the Quranic argument I will put forward (details later).
  5. There are different levels of confidence in Hadith collections.  The strongest of these is known as a Sahih (strong) collection, these are what I will use for my references.  A hadith in a Sahih collection is considered even stronger of the account is traced back to one of the companions of Muhammad through a different chain of people (Isnad).  Not all Muslims accept the references I will provide.
  6. Some Muslims who follow Sunnah and accept the provided references as authentic still disagree with marriage at such a young age for various other reasons.

I felt these points were important to make because I wanted to point out that it is a subset of Muslims who condone marriage and sex with females at such a young age, and that “Muslim rape gangs” are (to my knowledge) operating in violation of these religious laws.  More like “a beef eating vegetarian” than the “no true Scotsman” fallacy.

Evidence from the Quran

Before having sex with a female (wife or slave) a Muslim man must first ensure she is not pregnant.  This is to ensure the paternities of the children are known.  There are various implications of paternity such as how a child should be named, inheritance issues, and slaves who give birth to their master’s child cannot be sold and are automatically freed upon the death of their “owner”

Quran 33.49 says that the waiting period (Iddat) for a woman who has not had sex is not applicable.  Quran 2.228 says that the waiting period is 3 menstrual cycles.  Quran 65.4 specifies the waiting period for women who do not have menstrual cycles, these are as follows

  • Females who no longer menstruate: Three calendar months
  • Females who are otherwise not menstruating: Three calendar months
  • Females who are pregnant: Until they give birth

Obviously a female who has never menstruated can still become pregnant if they ovulate, making their egg available for fertilisation, so they too must have a waiting period if remarrying.  Being premenarcheal does not automatically mean a female is young, Amenorrhoea is a condition where females of a reproductive age do not menstruate due to various medical problems.  It is because of this that I personally do not feel it is justifiable to say that Islam forces Muslims to condone sex with pre-menarcheal females let alone 9 year old brides if using only the Quran.  Whether or not Quran-only Islamic states or individual Muslims do condone such actions is not the point of this article.

Evidence from Hadiths

It is the supporting documents of the hadiths which portray these Quran verses in a less favourable light.  Hadiths from Sahih Bukhari[1][2][3] claim that Muhammad married* his wife Aisha when she was 6 and consumated that marriage when she was 9.  Hadiths from Sahih Muslim[4][5][6][7] say that Aisha was 6 or 7 when Muhammad married her and she was 9 when taken to his house as his bride.  The Sunan Abu Dawud[8][9] collection states Aisha was 6 when married and that she had her first period when she was 9, at which point Muhammad had sex with her.  Sunan an-Nasa’i[10][11][12][13][14][15] says that Aisha was 9 years old when Muhammad consummated their marriage. Sunan Ibn Majah[16][17] says that Aisha was 6 when married to Muammad and 9 when that marriage was consummated.

*Note that according to Quran 33.49 the annulment of an unconsummated marriage is immediate, this means that an Islamic unconsummated marriage is akin to an engagement to marry here in the UK, and a consummated marriage is the point at which the marriage becomes the equivalent of a UK marriage.

Evidence from Asbab Al Nuzul by Al-Wahidi

Asbab Al Nuzul is a “collection of circumstances of revelation”, it is an attempt to document hadiths related to the events leading up to the revealing of verses.  The account of verse 65.4 states

Ubayy ibn Ka”b said: “O Messenger of Allah, of some women of Medina are saying: there are other women who have not been mentioned!” He asked him: “And who are they?” He said: “Those who are too young [such that they have not started menstruating yet], those who are too old [whose menstruation has stopped] and those who are pregnant”

I find it odd that this lack of information needed to be pointed out to Muhammad, who claimed to be receiving the information from an all-knowing entity.  I find it more odd that the receiver of divine information from this all-knowing entity had to ask “Who are they?”, however that is a different subject, possibly one for a future article.  The point is that here the premenarcheal females in question are premenarcheal specifically due to the fact that they are too young.

Exegeses (tafsirs)

Tafsir Al Jalalyn states that those who have not yet menstruated have not done so because they are too young.  Tafsir Ibn Abbas (via Tanwir Al-Miqbas) also states that these females are too young to menstruate (note that the authenticity of Ibn Abbas is questioned).  Finally Sayyid Abul Ala Maududi has quite a lot to say on the subject, I will quote selectively

They may not have menstruated as yet either because of young age, or delayed menstrual discharge as it happens in the case of some women, or because of no discharge at all throughout life which, though rare, may also be the case…making mention of the waiting-period for the girls who have not yet menstruated, clearly proves that it is not only permissible to give away the girl in marriage at this age but it is also permissible for the husband to consummate marriage with her. Now, obviously no Muslim has the right to forbid a thing which the Qur’an has held as permissible.

Maturity does not imply puberty

As with the marriage/engagement example there are cross language/culture differences regarding the word “puberty”.  Puberty implies the presence of pubic hair, whereas Islamic puberty does not necessitate this.  For this reason I shall use the term “Islamic maturity” instead.

According to this fatwa a girl becomes a woman (and therefore eligible for sex through marriage or slavery) based on her reaching at least the age of 9 (as per the Muhammad/Aisha example) and in addition must meet at least one the following criteria

  1. When pubic hair grows around her private parts
  2. When she starts to menstruate
  3. When she first emits a fluid from her vagina which is associated with having sex

If none of these signs appear by the age of 15 then she automatically reaches Islamic maturity.  In addition to this the girl must have the mental competence to be required to perform religious practises such as fasting, praying, and wearing a Hijab.


  1. Sahih Bukhari – Book 63, Hadith 122
  2. Sahih Bukhari – Book 67 Hadith 69
  3. Sahih Bukhari – Book 67 Hadith 70
  4. Sahih Muslim – Book 16, Hadith 81
  5. Sahih Muslim – Book 16, Hadith 82
  6. Sahih Muslim – Book 16, Hadith 83
  7. Sahih Muslim – Book 16, Hadith 84
  8. Sunan Abu Dawud – Book 12, Hadith 76
  9. Sunan Abu Dawud – Book 43, Hadith 161
  10. Sunan an-Nasa’i – Book 26, Hadith 60
  11. Sunan an-Nasa’i – Book 26, Hadith 61
  12. Sunan an-Nasa’i – Book 26, Hadith 62
  13. Sunan an-Nasa’i – Book 26, Hadith 63
  14. Sunan an-Nasa’i – Book 26, Hadith 183
  15. Sunan an-Nasa’i – Book 26, Hadith 184
  16. Sunan Ibn Majah – Book 9, Hadith 1950
  17. Sunan Ibn Majah – Book 9, Hadith 1951

UK Speaker Hamza Tzortzis defend Paedophilia in Islam

Hamza Andreas Tzortzis justifies when sex with under age girls is acceptable and okay. Pay attention to the supporting hollering and applauds from the Muslim crowd (‘Allahu-Akhbar, Kafir”) after Hamza’s defense of paedophilia in the debate with ‘kafirs’. He is a lecturer at the Islamic Education & Research Academy. What a fancy name for a “school” of medival Tribal mumbo-jumbo which believes camel pee can cure all diseases!

Hamza describes himself as follows:

Hamza Andreas Tzortzis is an international public speaker on Islam, a writer, lecturer, instructor and researcher. He is particularly interested in Islam, politics, western and Islamic thought and philosophy.

Hamza delivers workshops, seminars and courses on the foundations of Islamic thought. He is an instructor for iERA (Islamic Education & Research Academy) and AlKauthar Institute. Hamza has also delivered a short course on the intellectual foundations of Islam for the Islamic Online University for their Diploma course.

Hamza has debated prominent academics and intellectuals including Professor Lawrence Krauss, Professor Simon Blackburn, Professor Ken Gemes and Professor and Dan Barker. Hamza delivers presentations across the world on various topics; ranging from ‘Does God Exist’, ‘Why Islam?’, ‘The Miracle of the Qur’an’, ‘Islam or Atheism?’ to ‘Can we live better lives without Religion’.

Hamza is a popular speaker at UK University campuses, and has also travelled the world extensively to deliver lectures, most notably in the USA, Australia, Netherlands, Malaysia, Canada and Lebanon. Hamza has authored a number of Islamic publications as well as serialising a number of articles on his popular blog.

Muslim Professor of Islamic Theology Concludes After Research: Prophet Muhammed Never Existed

Professor Hired for Outreach to Muslims Delivers a Jolt

Islamic Theologian’s Theory: It’s Likely the Prophet Muhammad Never Existed

By  ANDREW HIGGINS  |  The Wall Street Journal

MÜNSTER, Germany — Muhammad Sven Kalisch, a Muslim convert and Germany’s first professor of Islamic theology, fasts during the Muslim holy month, doesn’t like to shake hands with Muslim women and has spent years studying Islamic scripture. Islam, he says, guides his life.

So it came as something of a surprise when Prof. Kalisch announced the fruit of his theological research. His conclusion: The Prophet Muhammad probably never existed.


Theology Without Muhammad

Read a translated excerpt from “Islamic Theology Without the Historic Muhammad — Comments on the Challenges of the Historical-Critical Method for Islamic Thinking” by Professor Kalisch.

Muslims, not surprisingly, are outraged. Even Danish cartoonists who triggered global protests a couple of years ago didn’t portray the Prophet as fictional. German police, worried about a violent backlash, told the professor to move his religious-studies center to more-secure premises.

“We had no idea he would have ideas like this,” says Thomas Bauer, a fellow academic at Münster University who sat on a committee that appointed Prof. Kalisch. “I’m a more orthodox Muslim than he is, and I’m not a Muslim.”

When Prof. Kalisch took up his theology chair four years ago, he was seen as proof that modern Western scholarship and Islamic ways can mingle — and counter the influence of radical preachers in Germany. He was put in charge of a new program at Münster, one of Germany’s oldest and most respected universities, to train teachers in state schools to teach Muslim pupils about their faith.

Muslim leaders cheered and joined an advisory board at his Center for Religious Studies. Politicians hailed the appointment as a sign of Germany’s readiness to absorb some three million Muslims into mainstream society. But, says Andreas Pinkwart, a minister responsible for higher education in this north German region, “the results are disappointing.”

Prof. Kalisch, who insists he’s still a Muslim, says he knew he would get in trouble but wanted to subject Islam to the same scrutiny as Christianity and Judaism. German scholars of the 19th century, he notes, were among the first to raise questions about the historical accuracy of the Bible.

Many scholars of Islam question the accuracy of ancient sources on Muhammad’s life. The earliest biography, of which no copies survive, dated from roughly a century after the generally accepted year of his death, 632, and is known only by references to it in much later texts. But only a few scholars have doubted Muhammad’s existence. Most say his life is better documented than that of Jesus.

[Sven Muhammad Kalish]Left: Muhammad Sven Kalisch

“Of course Muhammad existed,” says Tilman Nagel, a scholar in Göttingen and author of a new book, “Muhammad: Life and Legend.” The Prophet differed from the flawless figure of Islamic tradition, Prof. Nagel says, but “it is quite astonishing to say that thousands and thousands of pages about him were all forged” and there was no such person.

All the same, Prof. Nagel has signed a petition in support of Prof. Kalisch, who has faced blistering criticism from Muslim groups and some secular German academics. “We are in Europe,” Prof. Nagel says. “Education is about thinking, not just learning by heart.”

Prof. Kalisch’s religious studies center recently removed a sign and erased its address from its Web site. The professor, a burly 42-year-old, says he has received no specific threats but has been denounced as apostate, a capital offense in some readings of Islam.

“Maybe people are speculating that some idiot will come and cut off my head,” he said during an interview in his study.

A few minutes later, an assistant arrived in a panic to say a suspicious-looking digital clock had been found lying in the hallway. Police, called to the scene, declared the clock harmless.

A convert to Islam at age 15, Prof. Kalisch says he was drawn to the faith because it seemed more rational than others. He embraced a branch of Shiite Islam noted for its skeptical bent. After working briefly as a lawyer, he began work in 2001 on a postdoctoral thesis in Islamic law in Hamburg, to go through the elaborate process required to become a professor in Germany.

The Sept. 11 attacks in the U.S. that year appalled Mr. Kalisch but didn’t dent his devotion. Indeed, after he arrived at Münster University in 2004, he struck some as too conservative. Sami Alrabaa, a scholar at a nearby college, recalls attending a lecture by Prof. Kalisch and being upset by his doctrinaire defense of Islamic law, known as Sharia.

In private, he was moving in a different direction. He devoured works questioning the existence of Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Then “I said to myself: You’ve dealt with Christianity and Judaism but what about your own religion? Can you take it for granted that Muhammad existed?”

He had no doubts at first, but slowly they emerged. He was struck, he says, by the fact that the first coins bearing Muhammad’s name did not appear until the late 7th century — six decades after the religion did.

He traded ideas with some scholars in Saarbrücken who in recent years have been pushing the idea of Muhammad’s nonexistence. They claim that “Muhammad” wasn’t the name of a person but a title, and that Islam began as a Christian heresy.

Prof. Kalisch didn’t buy all of this. Contributing last year to a book on Islam, he weighed the odds and called Muhammad’s existence “more probable than not.” By early this year, though, his thinking had shifted. “The more I read, the historical person at the root of the whole thing became more and more improbable,” he says.

He has doubts, too, about the Quran. “God doesn’t write books,” Prof. Kalisch says.

Some of his students voiced alarm at the direction of his teaching. “I began to wonder if he would one day say he doesn’t exist himself,” says one. A few boycotted his lectures. Others sang his praises.

Prof. Kalisch says he “never told students ‘just believe what Kalisch thinks’ ” but seeks to teach them to think independently. Religions, he says, are “crutches” that help believers get to “the spiritual truth behind them.” To him, what matters isn’t whether Muhammad actually lived but the philosophy presented in his name.

This summer, the dispute hit the headlines. A Turkish-language German newspaper reported on it with gusto. Media in the Muslim world picked up on it.

Germany’s Muslim Coordinating Council withdrew from the advisory board of Prof. Kalisch’s center. Some Council members refused to address him by his adopted Muslim name, Muhammad, saying that he should now be known as Sven.

German academics split. Michael Marx, a Quran scholar at the Berlin-Brandenburg Academy of Sciences, warned that Prof. Kalisch’s views would discredit German scholarship and make it difficult for German scholars to work in Muslim lands. But Ursula Spuler-Stegemann, an Islamic studies scholar at the University of Marburg, set up a Web site called and started an online petition of support.

Alarmed that a pioneering effort at Muslim outreach was only stoking antagonism, Münster University decided to douse the flames. Prof. Kalisch was told he could keep his professorship but must stop teaching Islam to future school teachers.

The professor says he’s more determined than ever to keep probing his faith. He is finishing a book to explain his thoughts. It’s in English instead of German because he wants to make a bigger impact. “I’m convinced that what I’m doing is necessary. There must be a free discussion of Islam,” he says.

—Almut Schoenfeld in Berlin contributed to this article.